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		<title>By: Mitchell Allen</title>
		<link>http://virtualimpax.com/2009/07/29/social-media-linear/comment-page-1/#comment-32248</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitchell Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, maybe this why I&#039;m broke. LOL!
I&#039;ve bought the myth as relayed to me by Robert G. Allen (no relation, I&#039;m sure!) in his books about Multiple Streams of Income.

To be fair to the myth, I&#039;d like to point out that it seems to allegorize the nebulous statistics of the &quot;demographic&quot;. In the same way that people attempt to explain Click-through rates in terms of CPM, I believe that the sales funnel attempts to show the flow of that portion of the demographic that is predisposed to follow that path.

I&#039;d like to add my two cents to the quest for a scientific study: the owners of the social media metadata are the only ones capable of initiating such a large-scale study. I recently read about Twitter&#039;s collection of tweet stream metadata:
http://regulargeek.com/2009/11/25/twitter-is-fighting-with-their-users-for-metadata/
While the focus of the post was on the Retweet changes, there is a quote from and a link to a post by Robert Scoble describing just what Jason appears to be seeking.

As an aside, I&#039;ve quoted Jason&#039;s blog before and I&#039;d like to say here, &quot;Jason, you da Man!&quot;

Cheers,

Mitch
.-= Mitchell Allen&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/morphodesigns/~3/Tm3L3MM884k/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter Reciprocal Following: Ack!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, maybe this why I&#8217;m broke. LOL!<br />
I&#8217;ve bought the myth as relayed to me by Robert G. Allen (no relation, I&#8217;m sure!) in his books about Multiple Streams of Income.</p>
<p>To be fair to the myth, I&#8217;d like to point out that it seems to allegorize the nebulous statistics of the &#8220;demographic&#8221;. In the same way that people attempt to explain Click-through rates in terms of CPM, I believe that the sales funnel attempts to show the flow of that portion of the demographic that is predisposed to follow that path.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add my two cents to the quest for a scientific study: the owners of the social media metadata are the only ones capable of initiating such a large-scale study. I recently read about Twitter&#8217;s collection of tweet stream metadata:<br />
<a href="http://regulargeek.com/2009/11/25/twitter-is-fighting-with-their-users-for-metadata/" rel="nofollow">http://regulargeek.com/2009/11/25/twitter-is-fighting-with-their-users-for-metadata/</a><br />
While the focus of the post was on the Retweet changes, there is a quote from and a link to a post by Robert Scoble describing just what Jason appears to be seeking.</p>
<p>As an aside, I&#8217;ve quoted Jason&#8217;s blog before and I&#8217;d like to say here, &#8220;Jason, you da Man!&#8221;</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mitch<br />
.-= Mitchell Allen&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/morphodesigns/~3/Tm3L3MM884k/" rel="nofollow">Twitter Reciprocal Following: Ack!</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://virtualimpax.com/2009/07/29/social-media-linear/comment-page-1/#comment-24036</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason - you so &quot;hit the nail on the head&quot; with that post, I&#039;m glad to give it a &quot;double dose&quot; of link luv here.  

You&#039;re right.   In a world where we need to do a &lt;i&gt;multi-million dollar study&lt;/i&gt; to demonstrate that texting while driving is dangerous - and even then the governors of several US states are still not convinced the practice should be illegal - we &lt;b&gt;NEED&lt;/b&gt; more than anecdotal evidence that social media (blogs in particular) are good for business and worth the investment of time and effort.

The Huthwaite institute spent several years and a million dollar over two decades ago to document Neil Rackham&#039;s theory that there are two &quot;types&quot; of sales (Major Sales and Minor Sales).   The problem with doing a similar study on blogging is - who has that kind of &quot;skin&quot; in the blogging game to justify such research?  

There are lots of &quot;small scale studies&quot; that I know are going on - but most are focused on gathering anecdotal evidence.  

If anyone knows of a large scale, scientifically sound research study which will provide the metrics Vered and Jason are seeking, be sure to let me know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason &#8211; you so &#8220;hit the nail on the head&#8221; with that post, I&#8217;m glad to give it a &#8220;double dose&#8221; of link luv here.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.   In a world where we need to do a <i>multi-million dollar study</i> to demonstrate that texting while driving is dangerous &#8211; and even then the governors of several US states are still not convinced the practice should be illegal &#8211; we <b>NEED</b> more than anecdotal evidence that social media (blogs in particular) are good for business and worth the investment of time and effort.</p>
<p>The Huthwaite institute spent several years and a million dollar over two decades ago to document Neil Rackham&#8217;s theory that there are two &#8220;types&#8221; of sales (Major Sales and Minor Sales).   The problem with doing a similar study on blogging is &#8211; who has that kind of &#8220;skin&#8221; in the blogging game to justify such research?  </p>
<p>There are lots of &#8220;small scale studies&#8221; that I know are going on &#8211; but most are focused on gathering anecdotal evidence.  </p>
<p>If anyone knows of a large scale, scientifically sound research study which will provide the metrics Vered and Jason are seeking, be sure to let me know!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cohen</title>
		<link>http://virtualimpax.com/2009/07/29/social-media-linear/comment-page-1/#comment-23994</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again for the mention!

I agree with Vered -- it&#039;s hard to explain that the purpose of social media isn&#039;t to immediately produce &quot;leads&quot; or sales.  Still those clients have a good point -- eventually it needs to product something measurable.

One thing I&#039;d like to hear more about from you Kathy (or really anyone!) is how to reconcile the need for metrics and tangible evidence with the direct benefits of engagement and attention.

That is, it&#039;s one thing to tell stories about how someone was enticed by a blog and later told a friend and the friend bought -- that&#039;s fine -- but what about on-going, measurable effects that clients can see?
.-= Jason Cohen&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/smartbear/~3/zSitQo6ECpQ/why-business-blogs-should-focus-on-cheerleaders-not-lead-gen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why business blogs should focus on cheerleaders, not lead-generation&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again for the mention!</p>
<p>I agree with Vered &#8212; it&#8217;s hard to explain that the purpose of social media isn&#8217;t to immediately produce &#8220;leads&#8221; or sales.  Still those clients have a good point &#8212; eventually it needs to product something measurable.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;d like to hear more about from you Kathy (or really anyone!) is how to reconcile the need for metrics and tangible evidence with the direct benefits of engagement and attention.</p>
<p>That is, it&#8217;s one thing to tell stories about how someone was enticed by a blog and later told a friend and the friend bought &#8212; that&#8217;s fine &#8212; but what about on-going, measurable effects that clients can see?<br />
.-= Jason Cohen&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/smartbear/~3/zSitQo6ECpQ/why-business-blogs-should-focus-on-cheerleaders-not-lead-gen.html" rel="nofollow">Why business blogs should focus on cheerleaders, not lead-generation</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://virtualimpax.com/2009/07/29/social-media-linear/comment-page-1/#comment-23937</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davina - Twitter is another GREAT tool for creating cheerleaders - and it&#039;s also being HORRIBLY abused by people who think followers are leads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davina &#8211; Twitter is another GREAT tool for creating cheerleaders &#8211; and it&#8217;s also being HORRIBLY abused by people who think followers are leads!</p>
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		<title>By: Davina</title>
		<link>http://virtualimpax.com/2009/07/29/social-media-linear/comment-page-1/#comment-23915</link>
		<dc:creator>Davina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kathy. Right on! &quot;Your blog needs to focus on creating cheerleaders and not leads...&quot; I love Twitter for this very fact. There are a lot of neat people to connect with (not everyone) but just by being there after a time you start to develop the instinct about who you want to connect with.
.-= Davina&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ShadesOfCrimson/~3/T2sNm112ci4/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There’s Life Coaching &amp; Then There’s Just Life&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kathy. Right on! &#8220;Your blog needs to focus on creating cheerleaders and not leads&#8230;&#8221; I love Twitter for this very fact. There are a lot of neat people to connect with (not everyone) but just by being there after a time you start to develop the instinct about who you want to connect with.<br />
.-= Davina&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ShadesOfCrimson/~3/T2sNm112ci4/" rel="nofollow">There’s Life Coaching &amp; Then There’s Just Life</a> =-.</p>
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